I do not have a credit card yet and I need to verify my paypal account.
Also can I add a debit card to my lsit of cards on paypal..|||gift cards will not verify on paypal
prepaid cards: the ones with the huge fees will.
Monday, December 12, 2011
Do you think "philosophy is p***-easy" is a stupid thing to say?
Ok, so yesterday this guy I know said "philosophy is piss-easy" in a really dismissive way. I usually respect his views and agree to differ with him on most things even though he exasperates me with his sweeping new-age beliefs and racial generalizations, but this comment about philosophy seriously irritated me. Am I justified in saying his comment is stupid, or is what he said perfectly fine?
These are the objections I laid out to him:
1. He is completely missing the point of philsophical enquiry. Saying philosophy is "easy" is really a lazy way of saying "when I read or hear about philosophy I generally have no problem understanding the concepts and debates." This is perfectly acceptable (although I should have tested his knowledge to show up his arrogance). But he is missing the point in claiming all philosophy itself is "easy" because most of the topics that the subject has engaged with over the millenia have never been "resolved". It's not like completing a video game or finishing a jigsaw puzzle. It's like saying "politics is easy". If it were then presumably we would have stopped having wars by now.
2. He reifies the concept of philosophy. In my view philosophy exists insofar as it is produced out of debate between a variety of perspectives. Read a book, and yes, you may easily understand the arguments and tick it off your list - but go off and discuss it with others and you will push against the limits of your own assumptions and understanding. Calling this dynamic interaction of perspectives and meanings "easy" makes no sense. It's as easy as a piece of string is long.
3. If he thinks the philosophy he has read is "piss-easy" then either he has paradigm-shifting mental abilities, or he has a rather superficial understanding of it. People who say things are easy all the time I imagine are often simply lead down the same routes of the mind, they encounter no mental resistance because they are not asking themselves probing questions, in their complacency they rarely examine their own assumptions, things are "easy" or "boring".
4. He implies he already has within him the knowledge he needs to understand philosophy, making him a sort of rationalist, thus positioning him somewhere philosophically. If he had to defend himself against criticisms of his position? This is as easy/difficult as the depth of the criticisms.
5. Which leads me to the next point, the "piss-easy" body of thousands of years of human thought, philosophy, actually provides us with the means to reflexively act back upon the very statements we make by offering doubts and criticisms against them, so we forever elude the certainty that make things "easy".
6. Philosophy engages with the most profound questions that we can ask. To call this "piss-easy" is to grossly overstate the capabilities of one human mind.
7. It's wrong to say "philosophy is piss-easy" until you have comprehensively exhausted every book and discussion on the topic and can make a balanced conclusion about its complexity in relation to your own abilities to comprehend it. And since the topic isn't finite anyway, this is impossible.
8. Sounds harsh, but I think his comment is a function of his own competitive, compensatory need to boost his self-esteem, when in actual fact he's bankrupt, unemployed, and a cuckold. I think Nietschze said somewhere that often beliefs of some philosophers are sublimations of other things, "an involuntary and unconscious auto-biography", and my friend might do good to consider this. On the other hand, maybe I should encourage him. Damn, I'm being harsh...
9. If philosophy is so "easy", why can't he apply its intellectual tools when it come to the obvious weaknessness in his own unquestioned new-age beliefs? Some of these: talking about matter/soul (dualism) then that everything is one, the "Dao" (monism). He used to be an scientist yet believes in blood-types corresponding to personality types which is just an unscientific money-spinner. When I point out these contradictions he says they are different ways of seeing things and he doesn't want to chose one. In my view, if we are talking about things of little relative consequence to our future, say interior decoration, then I have no problem with things like Feng Shui. But once into the world of science and politics his view is a cop-out as if we have two competing claims about the same thing (obviously if two different claims refer to different things they may co-exist) then it makes sense to test both and then preference one, for more is at stake. (Or am I wrong in saying that "truth matters"?)
Are these valid objections, or have I got a bee in my bonnet? After all, it doesn't really matter what he thinks about philosophy, the proof is in|||Yes, your objections have some validity, but that is from your own perspective and those who share it. What you appear to be hung up on is that absorbing all the material surrounding the academic study is difficult, and that many philosophical questions are unanswerable, but the point you are missing is that philosophizing is easy. We all do it naturally. Philosophy, at its heart, is really nothing more than opinion. Some opinions are learned and wise and others are not. Your friend is apparently unconcerned with academic philosophy and is more concerned with the popular form of it, which indeed is "piss easy". To each his own may be a philosophy worth adopting.|||let him believe what he likes... clearly he is an ignorant twatt! if its so easy why doesn't he got to uni and get a doctorate?|||You're dealing with someone who is that sophisticated he resorts to using that sort of term to get his point across and you're worrying whether he has a valid point?|||Now you really are a philosopher! Extrapolating much more out of a phrase than it actually contains. This is the philosophers we know and love, making a mountain out of a molehill. Lighten up mate, it is just a throwaway comment, thats all.
These are the objections I laid out to him:
1. He is completely missing the point of philsophical enquiry. Saying philosophy is "easy" is really a lazy way of saying "when I read or hear about philosophy I generally have no problem understanding the concepts and debates." This is perfectly acceptable (although I should have tested his knowledge to show up his arrogance). But he is missing the point in claiming all philosophy itself is "easy" because most of the topics that the subject has engaged with over the millenia have never been "resolved". It's not like completing a video game or finishing a jigsaw puzzle. It's like saying "politics is easy". If it were then presumably we would have stopped having wars by now.
2. He reifies the concept of philosophy. In my view philosophy exists insofar as it is produced out of debate between a variety of perspectives. Read a book, and yes, you may easily understand the arguments and tick it off your list - but go off and discuss it with others and you will push against the limits of your own assumptions and understanding. Calling this dynamic interaction of perspectives and meanings "easy" makes no sense. It's as easy as a piece of string is long.
3. If he thinks the philosophy he has read is "piss-easy" then either he has paradigm-shifting mental abilities, or he has a rather superficial understanding of it. People who say things are easy all the time I imagine are often simply lead down the same routes of the mind, they encounter no mental resistance because they are not asking themselves probing questions, in their complacency they rarely examine their own assumptions, things are "easy" or "boring".
4. He implies he already has within him the knowledge he needs to understand philosophy, making him a sort of rationalist, thus positioning him somewhere philosophically. If he had to defend himself against criticisms of his position? This is as easy/difficult as the depth of the criticisms.
5. Which leads me to the next point, the "piss-easy" body of thousands of years of human thought, philosophy, actually provides us with the means to reflexively act back upon the very statements we make by offering doubts and criticisms against them, so we forever elude the certainty that make things "easy".
6. Philosophy engages with the most profound questions that we can ask. To call this "piss-easy" is to grossly overstate the capabilities of one human mind.
7. It's wrong to say "philosophy is piss-easy" until you have comprehensively exhausted every book and discussion on the topic and can make a balanced conclusion about its complexity in relation to your own abilities to comprehend it. And since the topic isn't finite anyway, this is impossible.
8. Sounds harsh, but I think his comment is a function of his own competitive, compensatory need to boost his self-esteem, when in actual fact he's bankrupt, unemployed, and a cuckold. I think Nietschze said somewhere that often beliefs of some philosophers are sublimations of other things, "an involuntary and unconscious auto-biography", and my friend might do good to consider this. On the other hand, maybe I should encourage him. Damn, I'm being harsh...
9. If philosophy is so "easy", why can't he apply its intellectual tools when it come to the obvious weaknessness in his own unquestioned new-age beliefs? Some of these: talking about matter/soul (dualism) then that everything is one, the "Dao" (monism). He used to be an scientist yet believes in blood-types corresponding to personality types which is just an unscientific money-spinner. When I point out these contradictions he says they are different ways of seeing things and he doesn't want to chose one. In my view, if we are talking about things of little relative consequence to our future, say interior decoration, then I have no problem with things like Feng Shui. But once into the world of science and politics his view is a cop-out as if we have two competing claims about the same thing (obviously if two different claims refer to different things they may co-exist) then it makes sense to test both and then preference one, for more is at stake. (Or am I wrong in saying that "truth matters"?)
Are these valid objections, or have I got a bee in my bonnet? After all, it doesn't really matter what he thinks about philosophy, the proof is in|||Yes, your objections have some validity, but that is from your own perspective and those who share it. What you appear to be hung up on is that absorbing all the material surrounding the academic study is difficult, and that many philosophical questions are unanswerable, but the point you are missing is that philosophizing is easy. We all do it naturally. Philosophy, at its heart, is really nothing more than opinion. Some opinions are learned and wise and others are not. Your friend is apparently unconcerned with academic philosophy and is more concerned with the popular form of it, which indeed is "piss easy". To each his own may be a philosophy worth adopting.|||let him believe what he likes... clearly he is an ignorant twatt! if its so easy why doesn't he got to uni and get a doctorate?|||You're dealing with someone who is that sophisticated he resorts to using that sort of term to get his point across and you're worrying whether he has a valid point?|||Now you really are a philosopher! Extrapolating much more out of a phrase than it actually contains. This is the philosophers we know and love, making a mountain out of a molehill. Lighten up mate, it is just a throwaway comment, thats all.
Is this money laundering or illegal in any way?
Ok, basically I'm a full-time student desperately struggling with finances this Summer.
My student loan will not be enough to last me until September what with bills, living expenses etc. and I've tried desperately to look for a job to fund myself during the holidays unfortunately to no avail as nowhere wants to hire students - I've literally lost count of how many applications I've made and CV's I've handed out.
However, about a week ago I answered an ad on craigslist.co.uk which seemed to be a very lucrative business structure but I'm slightly curious as to whether it is classed as money laundering or any sort of illegal operation and whether I will be an integral part of it if I go ahead.
The company's representative replied to my curious application asking for my postal details and the following information:
Dear Prospective Representative,
I want to seize this opportunity to congratulate you and Welcome you to our Company. We have verified all the information's you provided OK and I see that you are clean.You are to adhere strictly to the Company's Code of Conduct and Privacy Policy that is you are to dress properly like you are in an office environment whenever handling any of the Company's transactions.
Once again, we say congratulations and Welcome to the company. Your task is to coordinate payments from customers and help us with the payment process.
On receipt of any payment on behalf of our company from our customers, You are requested to initiate banking procedures, Deduct your contract fee of 600 Euro and remit our balance to us either via Western Union or Money Gram following detailed transfer instructions.
This is your Representative Number and should be included in any email you send or receive from us.
It is for Confidentiality and Security purpose...********.
I believe you now understand in full details what the job entails and do not have any further questions.
Feel free to contact me if you have any enquiries whatsoever.
In addition I would advise you to check your email at least twice daily to avoid delays in response.
I checked out their website and it turns out they're a company that builds agricultural equipment and sells and distributes them across the EU.
Anyway, this morning, the guy emailed me saying that the first cheque from a client of theirs will arrive in the post to me at some point next week.
I then replied to this stating that I was curious of whether this was in any way legitimate and explained that I'm just a 22-year old student in desperate financial need and I'm on the edge and almost willing to do any kind of work to ensure I have enough money for what I need to pay for - to which he replied: 'I understand how you feel and i want to assure you once again that this is a legit transaction and you have nothing to worry about. Keep an eye on your email for updates when the payment has been mailed out to you.'
Now, as I had mentioned before - I am in a considerable amount of debt on top of living expenses not to mention the fact that I've had to apply for temporary Payday loans to tide me over for the time-being. And since this guy emailed me this morning, I have to say I'm strongly considering going ahead with this, as I said I am in desperate need of cash and all of my other efforts thus far have proven to produce disappointing results.
I just wanted to get some advice on here from some very honest and intelligent people on what they think this sounds like - whether it is legitimate or an illegal thing as I do not want to jeopardise myself, my chances and my studies - I've worked very hard at my studies - the last thing I want is the police on my front door questioning me on something that I'm obviously quite naive about.
As I said - I am in desperate need for money right now - however this has become quite a dilemma for me and I don't want to make matters worse if I can help it.
Any useful advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks a lot.
R|||100% scam.
There is no job. This is not money laundering as there is NO money to launder, only YOUR money going to some anonymous scammer somewhere overseas.
The next email will be from another of the scammer's fake names and free email addresses pretending to be the "secretary/assistant/accountant" and will demand you cash a large fake check sent on a stolen UPS/FedEx billing account number and send most of the "money" via Western Union or moneygram back to the scammer posing as the "supply company" while you "keep" a small portion. When your bank realizes the check is fake and it bounces, you get the real life job of paying back the bank for the bounced check fees and all the bank's money you sent to an overseas criminal.
Western Union and moneygram do not verify anything on the form the sender fills out, not the name, not the street address, not the country, not even the gender of the receiver, it all means absolutely nothing. The clerk will not bother to check ID and will simply hand off your cash to whomever walks in the door with the MTCN# and question/answer. Neither company will tell the sender who picked up the cash, at what store location or even in what country your money walked out the door. Neither company has any kind of refund policy, money sent is money gone forever.
Now that you have responded to a scammer, you are on his 'potential sucker' list, he will try again to separate you from your cash. He will send you more emails from his other free email addresses using another of his fake names with all kinds of stories of great jobs, lottery winnings, millions in the bank and desperate, lonely, sexy singles. He will sell your email address to all his scamming buddies who will also send you dozens of fake emails all with the exact same goal, you sending them your cash via Western Union or moneygram.
Whenever suspicious or just plain curious, google everything, website addresses, names used, companies mentioned, phone numbers given, all email addresses, even sentences from the emails as you might be unpleasantly surprised at what you find already posted online. You can also post/ask here and every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find before taking a chance and losing money to a scammer.
6 "Rules to follow" to avoid most fake jobs:
1) Job asks you to use your personal bank account and/or open a new one.
2) Job asks you to print/mail/cash a check or money order.
3) Job asks you to use Western Union or moneygram in any capacity.
4) Job asks you to accept packages and re-ship them on to anyone.
5) Job asks you to pay visas, travel fees via Western Union or moneygram.
6) Job asks you to sign up for a credit reporting or identity verification site.
Avoiding all jobs that mention any of the above listed 'red flags' and you will miss nearly all fake jobs. Only scammers ask you to do any of the above. No. Exceptions. Ever. For any reason.
If you google "fake check cashing job", "fraud Western Union scam", "money mule moneygram scam" or something similar you will find hundreds of posts from victims and near-victims of this type of scam.|||This is 100% illegal and will only make your financial situation even worse
YOU are 100% liable for anything deposited into your account. When that check bounces, which it will in 3-4 weeks, you will owe your bank the entire amount of the check. If you are sent a $4000 check and it bounces you don't have a 0 balance, you are negative $4000 and have to pay your bank back immediatley or you can be jailed for bank fraud and possession of counterfeit monetary instruments
Read the non profit Fraud Aid's site http://www.fraudaid.com/check_liability.鈥?/a>
"Check cashing and account holder responsibilities are the same in all countries:
You cannot rely on your bank, credit union, PostBank, or check cashing store to protect you from counterfeit, stolen, or forged drafts. It's not their job to watch out for you, it is your job to watch out for them. Like you, merchants, banks, and credit unions have the rightful expectation of being given good money.
BY LAW YOU ARE LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE AND FULLY LIABLE for any and all checks or money orders deposited into your bank account by you or someone else, and for any funds wired into ANY of your accounts by you or someone else.
Your are 100% liable for any and all funds deposited into any of your accounts by any means whatsoever."
If you deposit or cash anything YOU are responsible for paying the bank back the ENTIRE amount of the bad check, not the person writing the check. You would then have to try and sue the writer of the check in court - if you could ever find them as they use fake names, fake addresses, pay as you go phones paid in cash that are ditched with each new victim|||Ddin't need to read all this garbage - it reeks of being a scam! The grammar and use of English is rubbish.
Remember the old adage: if it seems to good to be true, it usually is.|||Break off all contact.
This is a SCAM.
The check/cheque that they would send you would look perfectly real but it would be fake. It will bounce about 10-14 days after you deposit it and long after you have sent out the funds via Western Union or Money Gram. This leaves you on the hook for covering the bad check, possibly facing criminal fraud charges yourself and putting you in much worse financial shape than you are now.|||On receipt of any payment on behalf of our company from our customers, You are requested to initiate banking procedures, Deduct your contract fee of 600 Euro and remit our balance to us either via Western Union or Money Gram following detailed transfer instructions.
c'mon. Anyone over the age of 12 knows the western union scam.
You gotta know better than this.|||And here is an answer from the UK. This is a well known scam, anything with Western Union is. You will be out of pocket and breaking the law. This one has been around on the net for some years. When the police close it down another one pops up.
have you tried around the bars and cafe's for p/t work, I used to employ students. Start walking around your city centre. A lot of places put ads in shop windows.|||To stress the above post:
The fake check will appear to clear because your bank will typically follow a 3 day courtesy credit rule. This does NOT mean the check has cleared.
When the fake check bounces--which could be weeks later, you will be required to repay 100% of the money. You will be hit with NSF fees, your account will be reported to CHEX and when you can't pay, your name will be turned over to the policy for possible charges of money laundering.
These scams work because a) you are desperate; b) you are young and dumb; c) the emails try to sound legit. they use the name of real companies, but real companies NEVER hire people to cash checks and forward money by Western Union. You will be told to tell WU that you know these people, foiling WU's attempt to rescue from yourself.|||It's not money laundering, it's simply robbery. They will send you forged cashier's checks which you will foolishly deposit in your bank account. Then you will transfer them some money. Then your bank will call you up and tell you that the check was forged and that you owe them a whole bunch of money. Then you will have been robbed.
So here's how it goes down:
They send you a check for 6,500 euros.
You wire them 5,900 euros.
Your bank tells you that you have to pay them the 6,500 euros back because the check bounced.
You are out 5,900 euros.
That's a great way to make money for the scammer, and a good way for you to go broke.|||I don't even have to read this:
How the scam works.
You get a fake check.
The bank, by law, has to clear it within a few days.
But.. the check can bounce (and will bounce) up to 2 or 3 months later.
Remember: you sent them all kinds of cash via western union.
Haven't you heard of the scam before?
Any check you get from any company online has a 99.99% of being fake
My student loan will not be enough to last me until September what with bills, living expenses etc. and I've tried desperately to look for a job to fund myself during the holidays unfortunately to no avail as nowhere wants to hire students - I've literally lost count of how many applications I've made and CV's I've handed out.
However, about a week ago I answered an ad on craigslist.co.uk which seemed to be a very lucrative business structure but I'm slightly curious as to whether it is classed as money laundering or any sort of illegal operation and whether I will be an integral part of it if I go ahead.
The company's representative replied to my curious application asking for my postal details and the following information:
Dear Prospective Representative,
I want to seize this opportunity to congratulate you and Welcome you to our Company. We have verified all the information's you provided OK and I see that you are clean.You are to adhere strictly to the Company's Code of Conduct and Privacy Policy that is you are to dress properly like you are in an office environment whenever handling any of the Company's transactions.
Once again, we say congratulations and Welcome to the company. Your task is to coordinate payments from customers and help us with the payment process.
On receipt of any payment on behalf of our company from our customers, You are requested to initiate banking procedures, Deduct your contract fee of 600 Euro and remit our balance to us either via Western Union or Money Gram following detailed transfer instructions.
This is your Representative Number and should be included in any email you send or receive from us.
It is for Confidentiality and Security purpose...********.
I believe you now understand in full details what the job entails and do not have any further questions.
Feel free to contact me if you have any enquiries whatsoever.
In addition I would advise you to check your email at least twice daily to avoid delays in response.
I checked out their website and it turns out they're a company that builds agricultural equipment and sells and distributes them across the EU.
Anyway, this morning, the guy emailed me saying that the first cheque from a client of theirs will arrive in the post to me at some point next week.
I then replied to this stating that I was curious of whether this was in any way legitimate and explained that I'm just a 22-year old student in desperate financial need and I'm on the edge and almost willing to do any kind of work to ensure I have enough money for what I need to pay for - to which he replied: 'I understand how you feel and i want to assure you once again that this is a legit transaction and you have nothing to worry about. Keep an eye on your email for updates when the payment has been mailed out to you.'
Now, as I had mentioned before - I am in a considerable amount of debt on top of living expenses not to mention the fact that I've had to apply for temporary Payday loans to tide me over for the time-being. And since this guy emailed me this morning, I have to say I'm strongly considering going ahead with this, as I said I am in desperate need of cash and all of my other efforts thus far have proven to produce disappointing results.
I just wanted to get some advice on here from some very honest and intelligent people on what they think this sounds like - whether it is legitimate or an illegal thing as I do not want to jeopardise myself, my chances and my studies - I've worked very hard at my studies - the last thing I want is the police on my front door questioning me on something that I'm obviously quite naive about.
As I said - I am in desperate need for money right now - however this has become quite a dilemma for me and I don't want to make matters worse if I can help it.
Any useful advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks a lot.
R|||100% scam.
There is no job. This is not money laundering as there is NO money to launder, only YOUR money going to some anonymous scammer somewhere overseas.
The next email will be from another of the scammer's fake names and free email addresses pretending to be the "secretary/assistant/accountant" and will demand you cash a large fake check sent on a stolen UPS/FedEx billing account number and send most of the "money" via Western Union or moneygram back to the scammer posing as the "supply company" while you "keep" a small portion. When your bank realizes the check is fake and it bounces, you get the real life job of paying back the bank for the bounced check fees and all the bank's money you sent to an overseas criminal.
Western Union and moneygram do not verify anything on the form the sender fills out, not the name, not the street address, not the country, not even the gender of the receiver, it all means absolutely nothing. The clerk will not bother to check ID and will simply hand off your cash to whomever walks in the door with the MTCN# and question/answer. Neither company will tell the sender who picked up the cash, at what store location or even in what country your money walked out the door. Neither company has any kind of refund policy, money sent is money gone forever.
Now that you have responded to a scammer, you are on his 'potential sucker' list, he will try again to separate you from your cash. He will send you more emails from his other free email addresses using another of his fake names with all kinds of stories of great jobs, lottery winnings, millions in the bank and desperate, lonely, sexy singles. He will sell your email address to all his scamming buddies who will also send you dozens of fake emails all with the exact same goal, you sending them your cash via Western Union or moneygram.
Whenever suspicious or just plain curious, google everything, website addresses, names used, companies mentioned, phone numbers given, all email addresses, even sentences from the emails as you might be unpleasantly surprised at what you find already posted online. You can also post/ask here and every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find before taking a chance and losing money to a scammer.
6 "Rules to follow" to avoid most fake jobs:
1) Job asks you to use your personal bank account and/or open a new one.
2) Job asks you to print/mail/cash a check or money order.
3) Job asks you to use Western Union or moneygram in any capacity.
4) Job asks you to accept packages and re-ship them on to anyone.
5) Job asks you to pay visas, travel fees via Western Union or moneygram.
6) Job asks you to sign up for a credit reporting or identity verification site.
Avoiding all jobs that mention any of the above listed 'red flags' and you will miss nearly all fake jobs. Only scammers ask you to do any of the above. No. Exceptions. Ever. For any reason.
If you google "fake check cashing job", "fraud Western Union scam", "money mule moneygram scam" or something similar you will find hundreds of posts from victims and near-victims of this type of scam.|||This is 100% illegal and will only make your financial situation even worse
YOU are 100% liable for anything deposited into your account. When that check bounces, which it will in 3-4 weeks, you will owe your bank the entire amount of the check. If you are sent a $4000 check and it bounces you don't have a 0 balance, you are negative $4000 and have to pay your bank back immediatley or you can be jailed for bank fraud and possession of counterfeit monetary instruments
Read the non profit Fraud Aid's site http://www.fraudaid.com/check_liability.鈥?/a>
"Check cashing and account holder responsibilities are the same in all countries:
You cannot rely on your bank, credit union, PostBank, or check cashing store to protect you from counterfeit, stolen, or forged drafts. It's not their job to watch out for you, it is your job to watch out for them. Like you, merchants, banks, and credit unions have the rightful expectation of being given good money.
BY LAW YOU ARE LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE AND FULLY LIABLE for any and all checks or money orders deposited into your bank account by you or someone else, and for any funds wired into ANY of your accounts by you or someone else.
Your are 100% liable for any and all funds deposited into any of your accounts by any means whatsoever."
If you deposit or cash anything YOU are responsible for paying the bank back the ENTIRE amount of the bad check, not the person writing the check. You would then have to try and sue the writer of the check in court - if you could ever find them as they use fake names, fake addresses, pay as you go phones paid in cash that are ditched with each new victim|||Ddin't need to read all this garbage - it reeks of being a scam! The grammar and use of English is rubbish.
Remember the old adage: if it seems to good to be true, it usually is.|||Break off all contact.
This is a SCAM.
The check/cheque that they would send you would look perfectly real but it would be fake. It will bounce about 10-14 days after you deposit it and long after you have sent out the funds via Western Union or Money Gram. This leaves you on the hook for covering the bad check, possibly facing criminal fraud charges yourself and putting you in much worse financial shape than you are now.|||On receipt of any payment on behalf of our company from our customers, You are requested to initiate banking procedures, Deduct your contract fee of 600 Euro and remit our balance to us either via Western Union or Money Gram following detailed transfer instructions.
c'mon. Anyone over the age of 12 knows the western union scam.
You gotta know better than this.|||And here is an answer from the UK. This is a well known scam, anything with Western Union is. You will be out of pocket and breaking the law. This one has been around on the net for some years. When the police close it down another one pops up.
have you tried around the bars and cafe's for p/t work, I used to employ students. Start walking around your city centre. A lot of places put ads in shop windows.|||To stress the above post:
The fake check will appear to clear because your bank will typically follow a 3 day courtesy credit rule. This does NOT mean the check has cleared.
When the fake check bounces--which could be weeks later, you will be required to repay 100% of the money. You will be hit with NSF fees, your account will be reported to CHEX and when you can't pay, your name will be turned over to the policy for possible charges of money laundering.
These scams work because a) you are desperate; b) you are young and dumb; c) the emails try to sound legit. they use the name of real companies, but real companies NEVER hire people to cash checks and forward money by Western Union. You will be told to tell WU that you know these people, foiling WU's attempt to rescue from yourself.|||It's not money laundering, it's simply robbery. They will send you forged cashier's checks which you will foolishly deposit in your bank account. Then you will transfer them some money. Then your bank will call you up and tell you that the check was forged and that you owe them a whole bunch of money. Then you will have been robbed.
So here's how it goes down:
They send you a check for 6,500 euros.
You wire them 5,900 euros.
Your bank tells you that you have to pay them the 6,500 euros back because the check bounced.
You are out 5,900 euros.
That's a great way to make money for the scammer, and a good way for you to go broke.|||I don't even have to read this:
How the scam works.
You get a fake check.
The bank, by law, has to clear it within a few days.
But.. the check can bounce (and will bounce) up to 2 or 3 months later.
Remember: you sent them all kinds of cash via western union.
Haven't you heard of the scam before?
Any check you get from any company online has a 99.99% of being fake
Does this seem like a scam to you?
Background: I have posted an advert online selling 2 guitars in 2 separate adverts. Someone from Ireland has contacted me...
"Hello, I'm interested in buying your %26lt;guitar 1%26gt; (£325) Could you let me know if it's for sale. I do live North Ireland. I will send my shipper's to come and pick it up from you. I will be looking forward to hearing back from you. Kind regards, %26lt;name%26gt;. ###phone number###"
(and a very similar email for guitar 2, which i advertised at £1300)
I then replied...
"Hi %26lt;name%26gt;,
Just received you enquiries about %26lt;guitar 1%26gt; and %26lt;guitar 2%26gt; and would be happy to send to Ireland.
The both guitars are not advertised including cases but I guess it may be necessary to send them with cases via a courier - this is fine, I could just
buy a couple as a thank you for your interest in both.
Before you take you interest any further, %26lt;guitar 2%26gt; does have a scratch on the back from a belt buckle – I did not mention this as I thought people be too wary over its condition even though it is, as advertised, in excellent condition. I can send you additional pictures if you want?
Thanks for your interest”
Then they very swiftly replied…
Hello,
Thanks for the mail..Regarding the payment term My client will make out the payment to you on my behalf.
He will make out a cheque, and send it to you. The amount on the cheque will be £1800 that will cover the shipping and you will deduct your money which is £325.
Therefore, when you recieve the cheque you will take it to your bank and get back to me with the clearing date.When it does clears you deduct your money and you will be sending the rest of the balance to the Shipping company that will come for the pick-up.I want you to email me the following informations below:
1.The full name on the cheque
2. Mailing Address to send the cheque
3. Contact phone number.So that the cheque can be written out in your
name and mail to your address.
PS:I will want you to kindly put SOLD on the advert from the placing site..ok or any interested buyer that mail you,just let them know that it has been SOLD,so for doing that I will be willing to compensate you with £50,so your total deduction will be £425.
Hope this is clear to you. Get back to me asap!
Regards,
%26lt;name%26gt;|||google cheque overpayment scam, this is very common. Its money laundering, they want you to deposit a fake cheque, send real money to the 'courier' and a week later your bank discovers the cheque you deposited is fake and debits all that money, and they have to call the police as its fraud if you deposit a fake cheque and you will be arrested http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg…|||They want you to stop advertising in case you get a response from a REAL buyer, that is a scam. Anytime, they wan to use their own means of shipping, or their own way of purchasing, it is a big tip-off! Especially, with this one where they offer much more money than asked for. So, scam! Run for the hills
"Hello, I'm interested in buying your %26lt;guitar 1%26gt; (£325) Could you let me know if it's for sale. I do live North Ireland. I will send my shipper's to come and pick it up from you. I will be looking forward to hearing back from you. Kind regards, %26lt;name%26gt;. ###phone number###"
(and a very similar email for guitar 2, which i advertised at £1300)
I then replied...
"Hi %26lt;name%26gt;,
Just received you enquiries about %26lt;guitar 1%26gt; and %26lt;guitar 2%26gt; and would be happy to send to Ireland.
The both guitars are not advertised including cases but I guess it may be necessary to send them with cases via a courier - this is fine, I could just
buy a couple as a thank you for your interest in both.
Before you take you interest any further, %26lt;guitar 2%26gt; does have a scratch on the back from a belt buckle – I did not mention this as I thought people be too wary over its condition even though it is, as advertised, in excellent condition. I can send you additional pictures if you want?
Thanks for your interest”
Then they very swiftly replied…
Hello,
Thanks for the mail..Regarding the payment term My client will make out the payment to you on my behalf.
He will make out a cheque, and send it to you. The amount on the cheque will be £1800 that will cover the shipping and you will deduct your money which is £325.
Therefore, when you recieve the cheque you will take it to your bank and get back to me with the clearing date.When it does clears you deduct your money and you will be sending the rest of the balance to the Shipping company that will come for the pick-up.I want you to email me the following informations below:
1.The full name on the cheque
2. Mailing Address to send the cheque
3. Contact phone number.So that the cheque can be written out in your
name and mail to your address.
PS:I will want you to kindly put SOLD on the advert from the placing site..ok or any interested buyer that mail you,just let them know that it has been SOLD,so for doing that I will be willing to compensate you with £50,so your total deduction will be £425.
Hope this is clear to you. Get back to me asap!
Regards,
%26lt;name%26gt;|||google cheque overpayment scam, this is very common. Its money laundering, they want you to deposit a fake cheque, send real money to the 'courier' and a week later your bank discovers the cheque you deposited is fake and debits all that money, and they have to call the police as its fraud if you deposit a fake cheque and you will be arrested http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg…|||They want you to stop advertising in case you get a response from a REAL buyer, that is a scam. Anytime, they wan to use their own means of shipping, or their own way of purchasing, it is a big tip-off! Especially, with this one where they offer much more money than asked for. So, scam! Run for the hills
Anyone know what these weird responses to posts of sale items on Craigs List and other classifieds?
I have sold many things on CL and other classified sites. I have been getting these weird replies that are a little different but all seem to be the same style/type. From many different email accounts. Broken english. They want to pay with a check, what, do they want my address? what are they going to do with that? I don't get it. I got so many of these when I posted a chihuahua for adoption. I replied to one and got a response. Real person. So why the same style? has to be some sort of scam. It's just making me crazy cause I can't see what they are trying to get from me. Here is the latest one a response to an ad for a parts car. I can't ship a car. It makes no sense.
I appreciate your prompt response towards my enquiries. This is to inform you that am pleased with the pics and willing to pay the asking price for this item. I'll be making payment for this item via check, so you'll need to provide me with details in which the check can be mailout to. Details should include: your full name, visible home or office address where you can easily recieve package via courier service and phone #.
N:B Am responsible for the pickup arrangement, thereby i'll be sending you an excess payment which will cover the shipping cost but all required of you after recieving the payment is to deduct the amount for the item then you send the remaining balance to the mover via westernunion money transfer/moneygramm in cash, then they come for the pickup there after. Let me know if you're satisfied with this arrangement. if you're, i will implore you to take off the ads on craigslist and consider we have a deal on. Regards|||Those emails are called 419 scams.Most of them coming from Nigeria. Read more about them from here,
http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams
I appreciate your prompt response towards my enquiries. This is to inform you that am pleased with the pics and willing to pay the asking price for this item. I'll be making payment for this item via check, so you'll need to provide me with details in which the check can be mailout to. Details should include: your full name, visible home or office address where you can easily recieve package via courier service and phone #.
N:B Am responsible for the pickup arrangement, thereby i'll be sending you an excess payment which will cover the shipping cost but all required of you after recieving the payment is to deduct the amount for the item then you send the remaining balance to the mover via westernunion money transfer/moneygramm in cash, then they come for the pickup there after. Let me know if you're satisfied with this arrangement. if you're, i will implore you to take off the ads on craigslist and consider we have a deal on. Regards|||Those emails are called 419 scams.Most of them coming from Nigeria. Read more about them from here,
http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams
Thursday, December 8, 2011
Does A Guy who Stalks you love you?
Been seeing someone for exactly 4 months now.he is 36 years old.
The first week after i agreed to go out with him he started showing jealousy signs.before agreeing to date him he knew i had always gotten a lot of male attention.Subsequently whenever any of my male friends called me and he he was nearby he would frown and sulk.this is was just 2 weeks into dating.
Then he would start showing up at my place unannounced any time he felt like it saying he was just checking up on me.
I kind of suspect he does not trust any woman.
He started freaking me out when he show up even if i had not agreed to see him that day!sometimes he would even show up AN HOUR after i just saw him.
He has shown signs of obsessive behavior.
i could not have a moment to myself even when we just hung out 2 hours ago he would call/text to ask irrelevant questions or to tell me he loves me(he told me he loved me 2 weeks into dating)!
3 weeks into dating we spoke one day and i told him i was going to see my friend(female)
he then asks "how come i do not know all your friends" and i am like DUDE SERIOUSLY!
i spent a week over at his place and on the friday of said week (after not having an outing in almost a month)i told him i needed to go chill with my friend.thus began enquiries as to who this friend was,where the friend was located and the friend's name.He abandoned an important meeting crucial to his CAREER that evening because he wanted to know who my friend was.(what mature 36 year old does that)?
We had a huge fight that evening like seriously i do not get nosey about who he is going out with and i believe in a relationship people need their space.
He is a nice and caring guy but he NEEDS to get a life!
The morning my folks travelled out of town we hung out up until 1am then i told him to drop me home.at 6am in the morning i woke up to see someone calling my phone with a restricted no over 10 times and then the DOORBELL RINGS! i was so scared (being the only one in the house) i peeped out of my window and lo and behold a few minutes later i saw his car pass my house.
He would offer to drive me to school (my college is about 35 miles from my house)which is sweet but he practically would drop anything to take me to school and then WAIT in school till my classes were done.
Not meaning to seem conceited but is being a bit attractive a curse because this guy has frustrated the life out of me!!
He tells me he loves me,constantly apologizes but i cant stand being with an insecure man.
Now i can see why he has never been married!No woman wants someone who does not respect her space and chokes her all the time?
Isnt a healthy relationship about making sure both your lives are filled with activities that involve and also dont involve each other? like creating a balance?
He once told me he does not need my permission to come over unannounced since we are dating!
He hides his number to call sometimes(i do not know why),once called my phone 12 TIMES startling me in the middle of the night after we had spoken earlier that night.
I am at my my wits end.I am considering ending it with him.
He is caring in every other way but
Advise Please?|||I understand that it's easy to feel like he must love you since he puts so much effort into being with you, but that is most certainly NOT the case. I don't mean to sound over the top, but this is a dangerous situation, and should not be taken lightly. I'm sure that most people would agree that a vital part of any relationship is trust, right? If this man trusted you, he would not follow your every move. If he loved you, he would want the best for you, and would want you to have an exciting and fulfilling life, outside of your relationship with him. This is not love. This is well frankly, frightening.
I would suggest ending things IMMEDIATELY, and perhaps seeing if you could live with a friend or something for a little while after wards? I realize this all sounds very over the top, but you never know what men like this are capable of, and there's no such thing as playing it "too safe."|||Post smaller questions please.No a stalker never loves you.A stalker is obsessed with you.|||Be careful when ending a relationship with someone who is abusive (yes, stalking is mental/emotional abuse and can escalate to physical). Usually things get worse when the victim tries to leave. Make sure there are people who know where you are at all times when you are planning on leaving him-if you plan on it. Call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE and they can help you make a safety plan.
Be careful-he is watching you.|||Sounds like you guys have trust issues. I am a very private person and don't easily let people into my life or share things with them. My fiance was also that way at the start of our relationship 2years ago. He didn't understand the private side of me because he is very open. He was acting in ways similar to your guy and I was determined to be more private. One day, I had a serious discussion with him about it and discovered that he really did care about me and acted the way he did because some of my actions were suspicious to him and he just could not understand why someone he cares about could not be open with him. He told me that he feels like I am hiding things and this was causing him to distrust me and I also didn't trust him enough to let him into my life at the time. However, we both decided to make changes that will build the trust in our relationship. We will be getting married in January.
Usually this kind of behavior means trust is lacking in some measure on both sides. You should try talking to him about why he is behaving that way and you will likely discover that it has to do with trust. Trust is not automatic it has to be built by both people.
Couple of articles that might help
http://www.familyresource.com/relationships/building-and-maintaining/five-ingredients-for-developing-trust-in-a-relationship
http://www.ehow.com/how_2299228_build-trust-relationships.html
Goodluck
The first week after i agreed to go out with him he started showing jealousy signs.before agreeing to date him he knew i had always gotten a lot of male attention.Subsequently whenever any of my male friends called me and he he was nearby he would frown and sulk.this is was just 2 weeks into dating.
Then he would start showing up at my place unannounced any time he felt like it saying he was just checking up on me.
I kind of suspect he does not trust any woman.
He started freaking me out when he show up even if i had not agreed to see him that day!sometimes he would even show up AN HOUR after i just saw him.
He has shown signs of obsessive behavior.
i could not have a moment to myself even when we just hung out 2 hours ago he would call/text to ask irrelevant questions or to tell me he loves me(he told me he loved me 2 weeks into dating)!
3 weeks into dating we spoke one day and i told him i was going to see my friend(female)
he then asks "how come i do not know all your friends" and i am like DUDE SERIOUSLY!
i spent a week over at his place and on the friday of said week (after not having an outing in almost a month)i told him i needed to go chill with my friend.thus began enquiries as to who this friend was,where the friend was located and the friend's name.He abandoned an important meeting crucial to his CAREER that evening because he wanted to know who my friend was.(what mature 36 year old does that)?
We had a huge fight that evening like seriously i do not get nosey about who he is going out with and i believe in a relationship people need their space.
He is a nice and caring guy but he NEEDS to get a life!
The morning my folks travelled out of town we hung out up until 1am then i told him to drop me home.at 6am in the morning i woke up to see someone calling my phone with a restricted no over 10 times and then the DOORBELL RINGS! i was so scared (being the only one in the house) i peeped out of my window and lo and behold a few minutes later i saw his car pass my house.
He would offer to drive me to school (my college is about 35 miles from my house)which is sweet but he practically would drop anything to take me to school and then WAIT in school till my classes were done.
Not meaning to seem conceited but is being a bit attractive a curse because this guy has frustrated the life out of me!!
He tells me he loves me,constantly apologizes but i cant stand being with an insecure man.
Now i can see why he has never been married!No woman wants someone who does not respect her space and chokes her all the time?
Isnt a healthy relationship about making sure both your lives are filled with activities that involve and also dont involve each other? like creating a balance?
He once told me he does not need my permission to come over unannounced since we are dating!
He hides his number to call sometimes(i do not know why),once called my phone 12 TIMES startling me in the middle of the night after we had spoken earlier that night.
I am at my my wits end.I am considering ending it with him.
He is caring in every other way but
Advise Please?|||I understand that it's easy to feel like he must love you since he puts so much effort into being with you, but that is most certainly NOT the case. I don't mean to sound over the top, but this is a dangerous situation, and should not be taken lightly. I'm sure that most people would agree that a vital part of any relationship is trust, right? If this man trusted you, he would not follow your every move. If he loved you, he would want the best for you, and would want you to have an exciting and fulfilling life, outside of your relationship with him. This is not love. This is well frankly, frightening.
I would suggest ending things IMMEDIATELY, and perhaps seeing if you could live with a friend or something for a little while after wards? I realize this all sounds very over the top, but you never know what men like this are capable of, and there's no such thing as playing it "too safe."|||Post smaller questions please.No a stalker never loves you.A stalker is obsessed with you.|||Be careful when ending a relationship with someone who is abusive (yes, stalking is mental/emotional abuse and can escalate to physical). Usually things get worse when the victim tries to leave. Make sure there are people who know where you are at all times when you are planning on leaving him-if you plan on it. Call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE and they can help you make a safety plan.
Be careful-he is watching you.|||Sounds like you guys have trust issues. I am a very private person and don't easily let people into my life or share things with them. My fiance was also that way at the start of our relationship 2years ago. He didn't understand the private side of me because he is very open. He was acting in ways similar to your guy and I was determined to be more private. One day, I had a serious discussion with him about it and discovered that he really did care about me and acted the way he did because some of my actions were suspicious to him and he just could not understand why someone he cares about could not be open with him. He told me that he feels like I am hiding things and this was causing him to distrust me and I also didn't trust him enough to let him into my life at the time. However, we both decided to make changes that will build the trust in our relationship. We will be getting married in January.
Usually this kind of behavior means trust is lacking in some measure on both sides. You should try talking to him about why he is behaving that way and you will likely discover that it has to do with trust. Trust is not automatic it has to be built by both people.
Couple of articles that might help
http://www.familyresource.com/relationships/building-and-maintaining/five-ingredients-for-developing-trust-in-a-relationship
http://www.ehow.com/how_2299228_build-trust-relationships.html
Goodluck
This is a scam right? (UK Lottery, but they sent me a legit check?)?
Alright, now Ive gotten the e-mail before saying ive won the lottery send all my information and whatnot to them to claim my prize and I know those are scams, but never before have I recieved a letter and check in the mail, I still think its a scam, but just wanna be sure before I throw out a $4.975.00 check.
Just a couple of things 1st, where words are capitalized either means they were capitalized in the letter or underline and bold.
Here's the letter (as close to word for word as I can get)
Heading
ManageMyFinance
WEST WIND FINANCIAL INC
4500 SW MARINE DRIVE, VICTORIA, B.C., V5T 2C9, CANADA
TEL +1-604-781-0663
Letter"
"FILE NUMBER: KTU/902311****/**
Batch Number: 074/05/ZY3** August 28, 2008
Dear Tom R*****
RE: US $150,000.00 LOTTERY WINNING AWARD NOTIFICATION.
We are pleased to inform you of the release of the JULY, 2008 result of the $600 Million INTERNATION MEGA DRAW PROMOTION held on July, 30, 2007. Out of the 65 participants randomly selected by computer ballot system that participated in the program all over across United States, Candada, UK, Europe, North / South America, Asia and Australia, your lucky ticket numbers ***-38551***-35* with serial number 2113_** has subsequesntly drew the winning lucky numbers
1,5,7,41,43,49 and bonus #46, which subsequently won you the lottery in the 2nd category i.e match 5 plus bonus and have won you a lmp-sum winning amount of $150,000.00 (one hundred and fifty thousand U.S. dollars). You have therefore been approved of a lump-sum winning payment of $150,000.00 (one hundred and fifty thousand U.S. dollars), which have been credited to your file number KTU/90**118**9/0*
As you may be aware that the 30DAY DEADLINE within which every winning must be claimed, is about to elapse, enclosed herewith is a check of $4,975.00USD deducted from your total winning and sent to you. The purpose of this check inclosed is for the payment of the $3,985.00 CANADIAN NON-RESIDENT GOVERNMENT SERVICE TAX (GST) required to release your lump-sum winning balance to you at this same address
on receipt of this small check, you are required to "PAY" from the check a $3,985 Canadian Non-Resident Government Service Tax (GST), to the Canadian Tax Office as stated below:
TAX AGENT: Wendy Jones [MRS.]
6021 RAWLINGS ST.
TORONTO, ON, S4R 1Q8, CANADA
TAX AMOUNT: $3.985.00
PAYMENT METHOD: MONEY-GRAM WIRE TRANSFER
As soon as Government Tax Office confirms receipt of the $3,985 NON-RESIDENT GOVERNMENT SERVICE TAX from you through MONEYGRAM, our delivery agent will be on his way to your home to "HAND-DELIVER" your lump-sum balance (in a certified check) to you at home.
Winnings not claimed within the stipulated time will be transferred to our unclaimed fund account from where it shall be either rollled-over to our next lottery promotion excersize or be disbursed to charities of our choice without further notice. Regard this as a "FINAL NOTICE".
You are required to call and speak to your Claim Agent - OSCAR MATTHEW @ this TEL. NO" +1-6040781-0662 for further enquiries and directives. Congratulations and thank you for being part of this great promotion program.
(has her signature here)
DR AMY BLACK (MRS)
DIRECTOR OF OPERATION|||IT IS A RELATIVELY NEW SCAM. It is about two years old and is presented a couple of ways. The check isn't good even though your bank pays it. When it comes back around, you will be liable for the whole amount. Even though your bank cashes the check, it is no good. They count on your check clearing before their's come bouncing back. As a customer service tour bank limits themselvesw on how long they hold funds. They release the money before the check actually clears its original bank. The scammers use banks and systems that take longer than the hold.
DO NOT CASH THE CHECK. Call your local consumer fraud authorities.|||No its fake how come they would all of a sudden send u $4.975.00 check. for no reason|||If you read it carefully, they're telling you to pay them nearly 4000 dollars so they can pay you 5000. And you won't know if their check is good until you give them 4000.
I clicked on that survey link. Make sure you realize if you try them out that there is a 25.00 fee for them to pay you by Paypal. If other companies did this they'd be out of business. So you'll have to wait 6 weeks to get paid if you don't want to fork over 25 bucks everytime you request a payment.|||Tell them to bring you your money in cash to your favorite meeting spot, via a courier in a taxi cab. Tell them to take the expense of doing so out of your alleged winnings, and to keep $75,000 for themselves.
Tell them to tell the courier you are heavily armed...
It's a scam...|||That is a HUGE SCAM.
You deposit the check, you wire them money. They cash it, and by the time you find out that the check you deposited was counterfeit, your own money will be gone gone gone.
Doesn't it strike you as strange that they would send you money in order for you to send it right back???
Don't be stupid. Also - how on earth do you win a lottery you never entered?
Just a couple of things 1st, where words are capitalized either means they were capitalized in the letter or underline and bold.
Here's the letter (as close to word for word as I can get)
Heading
ManageMyFinance
WEST WIND FINANCIAL INC
4500 SW MARINE DRIVE, VICTORIA, B.C., V5T 2C9, CANADA
TEL +1-604-781-0663
Letter"
"FILE NUMBER: KTU/902311****/**
Batch Number: 074/05/ZY3** August 28, 2008
Dear Tom R*****
RE: US $150,000.00 LOTTERY WINNING AWARD NOTIFICATION.
We are pleased to inform you of the release of the JULY, 2008 result of the $600 Million INTERNATION MEGA DRAW PROMOTION held on July, 30, 2007. Out of the 65 participants randomly selected by computer ballot system that participated in the program all over across United States, Candada, UK, Europe, North / South America, Asia and Australia, your lucky ticket numbers ***-38551***-35* with serial number 2113_** has subsequesntly drew the winning lucky numbers
1,5,7,41,43,49 and bonus #46, which subsequently won you the lottery in the 2nd category i.e match 5 plus bonus and have won you a lmp-sum winning amount of $150,000.00 (one hundred and fifty thousand U.S. dollars). You have therefore been approved of a lump-sum winning payment of $150,000.00 (one hundred and fifty thousand U.S. dollars), which have been credited to your file number KTU/90**118**9/0*
As you may be aware that the 30DAY DEADLINE within which every winning must be claimed, is about to elapse, enclosed herewith is a check of $4,975.00USD deducted from your total winning and sent to you. The purpose of this check inclosed is for the payment of the $3,985.00 CANADIAN NON-RESIDENT GOVERNMENT SERVICE TAX (GST) required to release your lump-sum winning balance to you at this same address
on receipt of this small check, you are required to "PAY" from the check a $3,985 Canadian Non-Resident Government Service Tax (GST), to the Canadian Tax Office as stated below:
TAX AGENT: Wendy Jones [MRS.]
6021 RAWLINGS ST.
TORONTO, ON, S4R 1Q8, CANADA
TAX AMOUNT: $3.985.00
PAYMENT METHOD: MONEY-GRAM WIRE TRANSFER
As soon as Government Tax Office confirms receipt of the $3,985 NON-RESIDENT GOVERNMENT SERVICE TAX from you through MONEYGRAM, our delivery agent will be on his way to your home to "HAND-DELIVER" your lump-sum balance (in a certified check) to you at home.
Winnings not claimed within the stipulated time will be transferred to our unclaimed fund account from where it shall be either rollled-over to our next lottery promotion excersize or be disbursed to charities of our choice without further notice. Regard this as a "FINAL NOTICE".
You are required to call and speak to your Claim Agent - OSCAR MATTHEW @ this TEL. NO" +1-6040781-0662 for further enquiries and directives. Congratulations and thank you for being part of this great promotion program.
(has her signature here)
DR AMY BLACK (MRS)
DIRECTOR OF OPERATION|||IT IS A RELATIVELY NEW SCAM. It is about two years old and is presented a couple of ways. The check isn't good even though your bank pays it. When it comes back around, you will be liable for the whole amount. Even though your bank cashes the check, it is no good. They count on your check clearing before their's come bouncing back. As a customer service tour bank limits themselvesw on how long they hold funds. They release the money before the check actually clears its original bank. The scammers use banks and systems that take longer than the hold.
DO NOT CASH THE CHECK. Call your local consumer fraud authorities.|||No its fake how come they would all of a sudden send u $4.975.00 check. for no reason|||If you read it carefully, they're telling you to pay them nearly 4000 dollars so they can pay you 5000. And you won't know if their check is good until you give them 4000.
I clicked on that survey link. Make sure you realize if you try them out that there is a 25.00 fee for them to pay you by Paypal. If other companies did this they'd be out of business. So you'll have to wait 6 weeks to get paid if you don't want to fork over 25 bucks everytime you request a payment.|||Tell them to bring you your money in cash to your favorite meeting spot, via a courier in a taxi cab. Tell them to take the expense of doing so out of your alleged winnings, and to keep $75,000 for themselves.
Tell them to tell the courier you are heavily armed...
It's a scam...|||That is a HUGE SCAM.
You deposit the check, you wire them money. They cash it, and by the time you find out that the check you deposited was counterfeit, your own money will be gone gone gone.
Doesn't it strike you as strange that they would send you money in order for you to send it right back???
Don't be stupid. Also - how on earth do you win a lottery you never entered?
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